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Vehicle |
Motor / controller |
Pinion/Spur Gear (teeth) |
Cells |
Speed (MPH) |
| E-Maxx, mostly stock |
Stock Titans (2) / stock EVX |
18/66 |
12 (SMC 2000 NiCD Sanyo non-matched) |
26.4 |
| E-Maxx, mostly stock |
Stock Titans (2) / stock EVX |
18/66 |
14 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH non-matched) |
29.6 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Aveox RC7 / Aveox L160RC |
14/66 |
12 (SMC 2000 NiCD Sanyo non-matched) |
TBD (probably 33.3) |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Aveox RC7 / Hacker Master Car Sport |
14/66 |
12 (SMC 2000 NiCD Sanyo non-matched) |
33.3 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Aveox RC7 / Hacker Master Car Sport |
15/66 |
14 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH non-matched) |
34.3 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 7L / Hacker Master Car Sport |
15/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
12 (SMC 2000 NiCD Sanyo non-matched) |
1st gear: 26.4 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 7L / Hacker Master Car Sport |
15/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
12 (SMC 2000 NiCD Sanyo non-matched) |
2nd gear: 34.4 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 7L / Hacker Master Car Sport |
15/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
14 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH non-matched) |
1st gear: 28.2 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 7L / Hacker Master Car Sport |
15/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
14 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH non-matched) |
2nd gear: 36.9 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 8S / Hacker Master Car Sport |
15/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
14 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH non-matched) |
37.1 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 8S / Hacker Master Car Sport |
16/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
12 (SMC 2000 NiCD Sanyo non-matched) |
34.4 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 8S / Hacker Master Car Sport |
16/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
14 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH non-matched) |
39.1 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 8S / Hacker Master Car Sport |
17/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
14 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH non-matched) |
40.2 |
| E-Maxx, modified with much aluminum, stock chassis |
Hacker B50 8S / Hacker Master Car Sport |
16/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
12 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH ProMatch Racing matched) |
38.5 |
| E-Maxx, mostly stock |
Kyosho Magnetic Mayhem (2) stock EVX |
18/66 |
12 (Ballistic Batteries Sanyo 2400 NiCD non-matched) |
29.8 |
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| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 8S (2) / Hacker Master Car Competition (2) |
18/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
9 each (GP 3300 NiMH unmatched) |
37.8 |
| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
larger diameter HPI Savage tires |
Hacker B50 8S (2) / Hacker Master Car Competition (2) |
18/66 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
9 each (Sanyo 3300 NiMH ProMatch Racing matched) |
38.5 |
| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 8S (2) / Hacker Master Car Competition (2) |
19/54 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
9 each (GP 3300 NiMH unmatched) |
41.6 |
| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 8S (2) / Hacker Master Car Competition (2) |
19/54 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
12 each (Sanyo 3300 NiMH all 24 matched) |
46.4 1st gear |
| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 8S (2) / Hacker Master Car Competition (2) |
19/54 (adjusted for diff gearing) |
12 each (Sanyo 3300 NiMH all 24 matched) |
50.4 2nd gear |
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| E-Maxx, modified with some aluminum, stock length lowered
woven carbon graphite chassis |
Hacker C50 14.4 Maxx / Hacker Master Car Sport |
18/72 |
12 (Sanyo 3000 NiMH matched) |
37.5 |
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| HPI RS4 MT modified |
Lehner Basic 5300 / Schulze 18.61 |
18/96 |
6 (Sanyo 2400 NiCad unmatched) |
33.2 |
| HPI RS4 MT modified |
Lehner Basic 5300 / Schulze 18.61 |
18/96 |
7 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH unmatched) |
37.9 |
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| Traxxas Stampede 10th scale racer (modified) |
Trinity Speed Gem II, Onyx 14-turn double wind / Tekin Rebel |
14/87 |
6 (Sanyo 2400 NiCad unmatched) |
22.5 |
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| E-Maxx, modified, all aluminum (light) with GorillaMaxx
chassis, huge Monster Pirate tires |
Aveox 36/24/1.5 / Schulze 18.61 |
17/66 |
12 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH matched) |
1st gear 23.2 |
| E-Maxx, modified, all aluminum (light) with GorillaMaxx
chassis, huge Monster Pirate tires |
Aveox 36/24/1.5 / Schulze 18.61 |
17/66 |
12 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH matched) |
2nd gear 33.3 |
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| E-Maxx, modified, all aluminum (light) with GorillaMaxx
chassis, huge Monster Pirate tires |
Aveox 36/24/1.5 / Schulze 18.61 |
17/66 |
14 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH unmatched) |
1st gear 33.2 |
| E-Maxx, modified, all aluminum (light) with GorillaMaxx
chassis, huge Monster Pirate tires |
Aveox 36/24/1.5 / Schulze 18.61 |
17/66 |
14 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH unmatched) |
2nd gear 36.0 |
| E-Maxx, modified, all aluminum (light) with GorillaMaxx
chassis, Pro-Line 40 series Road Rage tires |
Aveox 36/24/1.5 / Schulze 18.61 |
17/66 |
14 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH unmatched) |
36.8 |
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| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker C50 13L / Schulze 32.80 |
20/51 mod1 with 7.5 buggy diffs (it would be about 16/51
with stock diffs) |
24 (Sanyo 3300 NiMH matched) |
53.7 |
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E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 8XL / Schulze 32.170 |
22/51 mod1 with 7.5 buggy diffs (it would be around 18/51
with stock diffs) |
18 (GP 3300 NiMH unmatched) |
40.4 |
| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 8XL / Schulze 32.170 |
22/51 mod1 with 7.5 buggy diffs (it would be around 18/51
with stock diffs) |
24 (3300 NiMH matched Sanyo) |
( 2nd gear) 53.9 |
| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 8XL / Schulze 32.170 |
22/51 mod1 with 7.5 buggy diffs (it would be around 18/51
with stock diffs) |
24 (3300 NiMH matched Sanyo) |
( 1st gear) 51.3 |
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| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 9XL / Schulze 32.170 |
24/51 mod1 with 7.5 buggy diffs (it would be around 20/51
with stock diffs) |
24 (3300 NiMH matched Sanyo) |
60.1 |
| E-Maxx, highly modified, mostly aluminum, extended chassis,
40 series Road Rage tires |
Hacker B50 9XL / Schulze 32.170 |
24/51 mod1 with 7.5 buggy diffs (it would be around 20/51
with stock diffs) |
18 (3300 NiMH unmatched GP) |
40.2 |
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Other findings
Running the Aveox system, there is an intense amount of torque using 7 or
more cells. Running parallel 7-cell packs, there is actually more
noticeable initial torque than running 12 cells in series. However, 12 cells
gives the Aveox system the greatest speeds and still has significant and
impressive torque/acceleration.
The Aveox ESC gets very hot, very fast running 10 or more cells, especially
using BEC. To keep from thermal-shutdown every 5 minutes, I have run different
heat sinks and fans which help out tremendously. Even with the heat sink,
14 cells brings the Aveox ESC to thermal way too fast. Since 14 cells is
too much for even maximum RPM on the motor, I would not recommend going over 12
cells with this motor.
The Aveox motor gets warm to hot running long periods with 10 or more cells.
It never gets too hot to run, though, using a standard motor heat-sink. No
fans are necessary on either motor or ESC if good heat sinks are used to
dissipate the heat. Depending on your truck and driving style, you may
need additional cooling.
And, as expected, the sensored-type Aveox system has no sign of cogging ever.
That's nice. It would be nicer with the addition of a forward, brake, and
reverse mode on the ESC. Currently, you must decide between proportional brake or
reverse.
The Hacker Master Car Sport ESC continues to amaze me. It will thermal
only after being abused by over-gearing or running a hot motor on too many
cells. Otherwise, it is nice. It took several hard runs on 14 cells
(pushing the B50 8S motor)
to get the Hacker system to high temp's.
The B50 7L, too, stays under high-warm temp's.
My first observations on the Hacker B50 7L system indicate that there is about as
much torque as with the Aveox system but hardly noticeable difference if there
is much.
It also takes over 12 cells with similar gearing to get the same speeds as with the Aveox on 12
cells. This is due to the RPM per Volt rating on the B50 7L motor being
lower than that of the Aveox. The Hacker motor can spin faster, so 14
cells on this motor is actually faster than the Aveox was ever capable of going.
I believe 16 cells on the B50 7L motor would bring the E-Maxx right up to 40 MPH
without breaking a sweat (getting too hot).
Cogging is noticeable with the Hacker system, as with all sensorless motor
systems. It's just something you get used to. I notice it most if
the car comes to a stop on large rocks, when I'm trying to ease over them.
The throttle catches and it just launches at times. That's not always fun,
but it's a trade-off for extreme power and speed that I'm willing to pay.
After running a full run on (14) 3000 mAH Sanyo 3000 cells with the Car Sport
ESC pushing the Hacker B50 8S motor, I was finally able to thermal the ESC.
With the Hacker B50 8S on the Car Sport ESC, I'm getting right around 10
minutes of run-time on 2000 mAH Sanyo cells. Nothing spectacular, but
right around stock and a little better.
The B50 8S is a very speedy motor, but heats the system up way too fast on
more than 10 cells.
Impressions of the Dual B50 8S and Hacker Comp ESC dual setup are WOW.
There's too much torque and power in this setup. I'm having a hard time
dialing the gearing with the gears that are available on the market now. I
had a custom spur gear made to help dial-in the gearing.
The transmission, even with SuperMaxx steel idler gears, is not strong enough
to withstand the power it takes to move the 14+ pound dual B-Maxx past around 50
MPH. Standing by for after-market transmission gears now...
The RS4 MT with Lehner / Schulze brushless system is way over-geared at
18/96. The system (motor and ESC alike) gets hot after 5-8 minutes on 6
and 7 cells, but has never thermalled. It also coggs noticeably when
beginning to roll. I gotta' hand it to Schulze for making a controller
that can get that hot without any means of cooling that can handle the
temperatures. This would be a great setup for someone who plans to gear
appropriately. I'd knock a good 2-3 teeth down on the pinion size if I
were you.
Aveox's 36/24/1.5 motor is an excellent 10-12 cell motor for the E-Maxx
because of its extreme torque and smooth operation. Anything over 12 cells
is thermal-city.
The Hacker C50 13L heli motor is the most intense motor I have run yet.
However, it takes a lot of cells (16+) to feed enough voltage to it, to be
crazy.
The good news is, there is now a transmission gear set at
www.thewebmine.com that can handle the
power I'm running in the heavy truck. Thanks Dan!